Wildout's D-Series Motor Rebuild

Old Mar 12, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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So it begins once again, this time I'm rebuilding my spare SI motor. Three reason's why I'm doing this. First the current CX motor burns too much oil for my liking. I no longer change oil, I just top it up with every gas fill up, yes it burns that much.

Second reason, I want to build a D-series motor, why you ask...just cuz. Third, I have two d-series motors laying around in my garage so why not, also this motor will be seeing low boost at the end of summer. Aiming for around August/September. Once again I will be doing all the motor work myself and will have Graham at Canadian Cylinder Head do the machine work.

The machine work will consist of:

-hone cylinder walls
-micropolish crank
-valvejob


The parts I plan to replace regardless of condition are:

-all the gasket's, so I'll be purchasing a engine gasket kit.
-valve seals
-piston rings
-timing belt
-rod bearings, main bearings & thrust washers
-rod bolts

So far the only thing that has been done, is that the engine is remove from the car and the intake and exhaust manifold's have been removed. I will be taking pics along the way once again, but this time I will show everyone exactly how long it takes from start to finish.

Any questions, statements (smartasspho) or whatever just post. Anyone has any request for pictures of certain things just ask.

Pricing for the parts and pictures will be added later on tonight.

P.S. This motor will be done before Fuzzy's. :*****:
Old Mar 12, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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you have to be kidding...im in the process of building a turbo eg right now. but im doing b series.
Old Mar 12, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by WildoutWhiteGSR
Aiming for around August/September.
Jamaican time?
Old Mar 12, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Can't wait to see the progress.

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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Smartass pHO
Jamaican time?
LOL So that means it'll be done by December. Just kidding T.
Old Mar 12, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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whoooooooooooo thas dirty! i member when a friend had a turbo D series thing would brake loose in 3rd gear............

haha be done b4 fuzzy wuzzy....
lol jamacian time. that still cant be any better then indian time. LOL.
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good luck t, so you and fuzzy now have a race to see who's done first!
Old Mar 12, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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are you gonna use the HX/CX exhaust manifold as the turbo manifold. It will save you $$$ all you need is a flange
Only hard part is actually sourcing the part. I think the canadians only got the CX, but in the US they got the HX as well so their odds are double ours.

Th d16A6 is a strong motor, i've heard lots of stories about how strong they are for boost.

Or you can go Mini Me. SOHC VTEC D16y8 head on a D16A6... but that would take too much time and money.
Old Mar 12, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Smartass pHO
Jamaican time?

:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:
Old Mar 12, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by born2board69
you have to be kidding...im in the process of building a turbo eg right now. but im doing b series.
Good Luck, I hope you've already started. I already have lower springs, koni yellows, 15 rims and stereo system for it

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Jamaican time?
Of Course :laugh1:

Originally Posted by Solid GSR YO
good luck t, so you and fuzzy now have a race to see who's done first!
Originally Posted by B18C5er
Excellent.....excellent.

I knew you'd do it. The BUILD RACE is on!!

LOL, there's no race. I'm gonna win. Another reason for this post is for fuzzy to get off his *** and finish the motor. Atleast this way I'll make him hurry up.

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are you gonna use the HX/CX exhaust manifold as the turbo manifold. It will save you $$$ all you need is a flange
Only hard part is actually sourcing the part. I think the canadians only got the CX, but in the US they got the HX as well so their odds are double ours.

Th d16A6 is a strong motor, i've heard lots of stories about how strong they are for boost.

Or you can go Mini Me. SOHC VTEC D16y8 head on a D16A6... but that would take too much time and money.
HX turbo manifold is ghetto and will never be in my car. There's no need for me to do a Mini Me swap, when I have a vtec motor. I may be cheap, but I'm still buying a brand new manifold, downpipe and turbo. It's a budget build because people don't believe you can turbo a car on a small budget, so I'm gonna do it. 200whp is the goal.

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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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BTW: how much did you get the car for?



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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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aha, well im slammed already, and everything else is just being started now, i dont plan on actually having the car dairly driven til next year. Just a side project, but turbo and such should be done by summer. Then comes wheels, paint, accessories ect.
Old Mar 12, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Smartass pHO
BTW: how much did you get the car for?



http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/new...007-challenge/
Maybe I should. I bought the car for $580 lol
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You can sell $580 worth of stuff off the car, then put $2007 into it!

DO IT!
Old Mar 12, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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LOL

There's nothing on the car to sell, but my remote start and I'm not doing that.

What are the rules, I can't find them on the site. I have a lot of spare parts in my garage, am I allowed to use them?
Old Mar 12, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Found the rules, there's no way I'll make the $2007 budget, if I have to include labour fee's into the budget. Same with the parts I have laying around.
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http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/cha...2007rules.html
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/cha...07scoring.html

I'll bring some back issues next time if you want ot read up on it some more.

DO IT!!!!
Old Mar 12, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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^bah, i'm in no rush, my car still runs fine. :finger:
Old Mar 12, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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Just be creative! I'll buy your parts for $10 each and re-sell them to ya
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PS: A V8-powered FC RX-7 won in 2006....
Old Mar 12, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Smartass pHO
Just be creative! I'll buy your parts for $10 each and re-sell them to ya

HHmmm, that's sneaky.


I'll guess we'll find out, I'll keep a detailed budget of everything I purchase.
Forsure this motor won't take me long to build.
Old Mar 13, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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How the garage looked before I started the tear down.



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Spare CX motor

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Tools and Parts Organizer I bought while on sale at Crappy Tire during the Christmas break.

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Tear down begins around 9:30pm

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Head Removed

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4th Cylinder

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3rd Cylinder

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First Cylinder

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Head Upside Down, Showing the Valves

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4th Cylinder

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2nd Cylinder

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First Cylinder

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Oil Pickup Removed

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Crank Girdle Removed



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And then I saw it......SPUN BEARING!!!

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I could cry....I hope the crank is ok and can be cleaned up with micropolish. I will only know once I send it out. I really don't feel like taking apart the CX motor as well for the crank, but if I have to I will.

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The main and rod bearings. They look oh so bad.

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Rod Caps

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Pistons

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Oil Pump & Rear Main Seal



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Bare Block

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How it looked about half way through. Roughly 2hrs of work.

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Back to work, now onto disassembling the head

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Cam Holder...LOL

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Almost there, only the valve springs, retainers and valve keepers left.
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Ever wondered what it looks like when people tell you that your valve seals are gone and that's the reason your burning oil. Well take a look. The rubber is suppose to be snug up against the valve stem with no gap, but in these to pics you can clearly see the gap.

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The result is that the oil runs down the valve stem onto the valve. Just take a look, see how wet the valves are.

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How the Exhaust valves look in comparison

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Now take a look into the head, see how wet inside is from the leaky valve seals

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Head all taken apart

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How I kept everything organized

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Next is a cleanup of all the parts, then onto the machine shop they go.

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Damn you! you're already ahead of me in my build. i'm waiting for my ARP hardware to show up at my door before i send my bottom end out to the machine shop. it's been almost 3 weeks. i should've got me one of those parts organizers too. i have a feeling Dave and I are gonna be hunting down alot of silly little parts.
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that bearing spun with teH fUrY!
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Originally Posted by WildoutWhiteGSR
P.S. This motor will be done before Fuzzy's. :*****:
i tried to make a bet with him a couple of nights ago his motor won't be done until june.

nice job, T.
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that spun bearing looks like the one we pulled out of scotts old block. the rod bearings on cylinder 3 were stacked on top of one another. they were like tin foil.
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yeah tin foil pretty well sums it up.

I'm currently looking for another D-series 1.6 crank, I don't want to risk it. If anyone has one let me know.
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what about the one from the other motor? different stroke?
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t has inspired me to finally tackle a motor build down...mine is just gonna take me a long *** time...either ls-v, or ls-t....
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Great stuff Trenell. You need to come up my way soon... Amanda will want to see the new addition before he's off to school :P
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Originally Posted by Buff4Prez Yo
what about the one from the other motor? different stroke?
Sadly yes 84.5mm vs 90mm

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t has inspired me to finally tackle a motor build down...mine is just gonna take me a long *** time...either ls-v, or ls-t....
Do it up Jay, it'll be faster than Fuzzy's 4 year build....

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Great stuff Trenell. You need to come up my way soon... Amanda will want to see the new addition before he's off to school :P

Yeah anytime. I didn't want to bug you with the young one being born recently, was just waiting to see to post on here or honda-tech.com as a sign that you have some spare time. Now that I know we can talk about finishing up my b-series project

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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby NSX
Great stuff Trenell. You need to come up my way soon... Amanda will want to see the new addition before he's off to school :P
You better have William all ready and packed to go...because once I hold him...I might have some troubles giving him back...
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Originally Posted by WildoutWhiteGSR
Yeah anytime. I didn't want to bug you with the young one being born recently, was just waiting to see to post on here or honda-tech.com as a sign that you have some spare time. Now that I know we can talk about finishing up my b-series project
Great! I apreciate it. Looks like the weekend of the 31st might be good for me. Let me know if either Saturday or Sunday will do.

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You better have William all ready and packed to go...because once I hold him...I might have some troubles giving him back...
hehe... Melanie keeps a pretty close eye on him :P
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What's the budget on this build?
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Originally Posted by Baby NSX
Great! I apreciate it. Looks like the weekend of the 31st might be good for me. Let me know if either Saturday or Sunday will do.
31st is good for me.

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What's the budget on this build?

$1200 over 6 months

Machine Work $400
Parts $400
Random ---- $400
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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Actually I just redid the budget and it's gonna be under $600 easily.

Anyways the block, head and new crank without a spun bearing has been sent off to the machine shop. Updates should come within 2 weeks.
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Originally Posted by WildoutWhiteGSR
Actually I just redid the budget and it's gonna be under $600 easily.

Anyways the block, head and new crank without a spun bearing has been sent off to the machine shop. Updates should come within 2 weeks.
will this engine be up and running before fuzzy's? :laugh1:

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