Wildout's D-Series Motor Rebuild
So it begins once again, this time I'm rebuilding my spare SI motor. Three reason's why I'm doing this. First the current CX motor burns too much oil for my liking. I no longer change oil, I just top it up with every gas fill up, yes it burns that much.
Second reason, I want to build a D-series motor, why you ask...just cuz. :) Third, I have two d-series motors laying around in my garage so why not, also this motor will be seeing low boost at the end of summer. Aiming for around August/September. Once again I will be doing all the motor work myself and will have Graham at Canadian Cylinder Head do the machine work. The machine work will consist of: -hone cylinder walls -micropolish crank -valvejob The parts I plan to replace regardless of condition are: -all the gasket's, so I'll be purchasing a engine gasket kit. -valve seals -piston rings -timing belt -rod bearings, main bearings & thrust washers -rod bolts So far the only thing that has been done, is that the engine is remove from the car and the intake and exhaust manifold's have been removed. I will be taking pics along the way once again, but this time I will show everyone exactly how long it takes from start to finish. Any questions, statements (smartasspho) or whatever just post. Anyone has any request for pictures of certain things just ask. Pricing for the parts and pictures will be added later on tonight. P.S. This motor will be done before Fuzzy's. :willy: |
you have to be kidding...im in the process of building a turbo eg right now. but im doing b series.
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Originally Posted by WildoutWhiteGSR
(Post 156523)
Aiming for around August/September.
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Can't wait to see the progress.
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Originally Posted by Smartass pHO
(Post 156526)
Jamaican time?
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whoooooooooooo thas dirty! i member when a friend had a turbo D series thing would brake loose in 3rd gear............
haha be done b4 fuzzy wuzzy.... lol jamacian time. that still cant be any better then indian time. LOL. |
good luck t, so you and fuzzy now have a race to see who's done first!
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Excellent.....excellent.
I knew you'd do it. The BUILD RACE is on!! |
are you gonna use the HX/CX exhaust manifold as the turbo manifold. It will save you $$$ all you need is a flange ;)
Only hard part is actually sourcing the part. I think the canadians only got the CX, but in the US they got the HX as well so their odds are double ours. Th d16A6 is a strong motor, i've heard lots of stories about how strong they are for boost. Or you can go Mini Me. SOHC VTEC D16y8 head on a D16A6... but that would take too much time and money. |
Originally Posted by Smartass pHO
(Post 156526)
Jamaican time?
:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: |
Originally Posted by born2board69
(Post 156525)
you have to be kidding...im in the process of building a turbo eg right now. but im doing b series.
Originally Posted by Smartass pHO
(Post 156526)
Jamaican time?
Originally Posted by Solid GSR YO
(Post 156540)
good luck t, so you and fuzzy now have a race to see who's done first!
Originally Posted by B18C5er
(Post 156542)
Excellent.....excellent.
I knew you'd do it. The BUILD RACE is on!! LOL, there's no race. I'm gonna win. Another reason for this post is for fuzzy to get off his ass and finish the motor. Atleast this way I'll make him hurry up.
Originally Posted by CdTriX
(Post 156545)
are you gonna use the HX/CX exhaust manifold as the turbo manifold. It will save you $$$ all you need is a flange
Only hard part is actually sourcing the part. I think the canadians only got the CX, but in the US they got the HX as well so their odds are double ours. Th d16A6 is a strong motor, i've heard lots of stories about how strong they are for boost. Or you can go Mini Me. SOHC VTEC D16y8 head on a D16A6... but that would take too much time and money. |
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aha, well im slammed already, and everything else is just being started now, i dont plan on actually having the car dairly driven til next year. Just a side project, but turbo and such should be done by summer. Then comes wheels, paint, accessories ect.
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Originally Posted by Smartass pHO
(Post 156565)
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You can sell $580 worth of stuff off the car, then put $2007 into it!
DO IT! |
LOL
There's nothing on the car to sell, but my remote start and I'm not doing that. What are the rules, I can't find them on the site. I have a lot of spare parts in my garage, am I allowed to use them? |
Found the rules, there's no way I'll make the $2007 budget, if I have to include labour fee's into the budget. Same with the parts I have laying around.
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http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/cha...2007rules.html
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/cha...07scoring.html I'll bring some back issues next time if you want ot read up on it some more. DO IT!!!! |
^bah, i'm in no rush, my car still runs fine. :finger:
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Just be creative! I'll buy your parts for $10 each and re-sell them to ya ;)
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PS: A V8-powered FC RX-7 won in 2006....
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Originally Posted by Smartass pHO
(Post 156574)
Just be creative! I'll buy your parts for $10 each and re-sell them to ya ;)
HHmmm, that's sneaky. I'll guess we'll find out, I'll keep a detailed budget of everything I purchase. Forsure this motor won't take me long to build. |
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How the garage looked before I started the tear down.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._8702Small.jpg Attachment 21332 Attachment 21333 Attachment 21334 Attachment 21335 Attachment 21336 Spare CX motor Attachment 21337 Tools and Parts Organizer I bought while on sale at Crappy Tire during the Christmas break. Attachment 21338 Attachment 21339 Attachment 21340 Tear down begins around 9:30pm Oil Pan Removed Attachment 21341 Attachment 21342 Attachment 21343 Valve Cover Removed Attachment 21344 Attachment 21345 Attachment 21346 Attachment 21347 Head Removed Attachment 21348 Attachment 21349 4th Cylinder Attachment 21350 3rd Cylinder Attachment 21351 2nd Cylinder Attachment 21352 First Cylinder Attachment 21353 Head Upside Down, Showing the Valves Attachment 21354 4th Cylinder Attachment 21355 3rd Cylinder Attachment 21356 2nd Cylinder Attachment 21357 First Cylinder Attachment 21358 |
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Rod Caps
Attachment 21277 Pistons Attachment 21278 Attachment 21279 Attachment 21280 Oil Pump & Rear Main Seal http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._8773Small.jpg Attachment 21281 Attachment 21282 Bare Block Attachment 21283 Attachment 21284 Attachment 21285 How it looked about half way through. Roughly 2hrs of work. Attachment 21286 Attachment 21287 Back to work, now onto disassembling the head Cam Plate Removed Attachment 21288 Rockers Removed Attachment 21289 LMA's (Lost Motion Assembly) Removed http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._8784Small.jpg Cam Holder...LOL Attachment 21290 Almost there, only the valve springs, retainers and valve keepers left. Attachment 21291 Ever wondered what it looks like when people tell you that your valve seals are gone and that's the reason your burning oil. Well take a look. The rubber is suppose to be snug up against the valve stem with no gap, but in these to pics you can clearly see the gap. Attachment 21292 Attachment 21293 The result is that the oil runs down the valve stem onto the valve. Just take a look, see how wet the valves are. Attachment 21294 How the Exhaust valves look in comparison Attachment 21295 Now take a look into the head, see how wet inside is from the leaky valve seals Attachment 21296 Attachment 21297 Attachment 21298 Attachment 21299 Attachment 21300 Head all taken apart Attachment 21301 Attachment 21302 Attachment 21303 How I kept everything organized Attachment 21304 Attachment 21305 Next is a cleanup of all the parts, then onto the machine shop they go. |
Damn you! you're already ahead of me in my build. i'm waiting for my ARP hardware to show up at my door before i send my bottom end out to the machine shop. it's been almost 3 weeks. i should've got me one of those parts organizers too. i have a feeling Dave and I are gonna be hunting down alot of silly little parts.
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that bearing spun with teH fUrY!
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Originally Posted by WildoutWhiteGSR
(Post 156523)
P.S. This motor will be done before Fuzzy's. :willy:
nice job, T. |
that spun bearing looks like the one we pulled out of scotts old block. the rod bearings on cylinder 3 were stacked on top of one another. they were like tin foil.
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yeah tin foil pretty well sums it up.
I'm currently looking for another D-series 1.6 crank, I don't want to risk it. If anyone has one let me know. |
what about the one from the other motor? different stroke?
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t has inspired me to finally tackle a motor build down...mine is just gonna take me a long ass time...either ls-v, or ls-t....
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Great stuff Trenell. You need to come up my way soon... Amanda will want to see the new addition before he's off to school :P
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Originally Posted by Buff4Prez Yo
(Post 157050)
what about the one from the other motor? different stroke?
Originally Posted by esguerra
(Post 157053)
t has inspired me to finally tackle a motor build down...mine is just gonna take me a long ass time...either ls-v, or ls-t....
Originally Posted by Baby NSX
(Post 157162)
Great stuff Trenell. You need to come up my way soon... Amanda will want to see the new addition before he's off to school :P
Yeah anytime. I didn't want to bug you with the young one being born recently, was just waiting to see to post on here or honda-tech.com as a sign that you have some spare time. Now that I know we can talk about finishing up my b-series project ;) |
Originally Posted by Baby NSX
(Post 157162)
Great stuff Trenell. You need to come up my way soon... Amanda will want to see the new addition before he's off to school :P
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Originally Posted by WildoutWhiteGSR
(Post 157166)
Yeah anytime. I didn't want to bug you with the young one being born recently, was just waiting to see to post on here or honda-tech.com as a sign that you have some spare time. Now that I know we can talk about finishing up my b-series project ;)
Originally Posted by PrincessS2K
(Post 157174)
You better have William all ready and packed to go...because once I hold him...I might have some troubles giving him back...:s:
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What's the budget on this build?
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Originally Posted by Baby NSX
(Post 157209)
Great! I apreciate it. Looks like the weekend of the 31st might be good for me. Let me know if either Saturday or Sunday will do.
Originally Posted by oL_sKooL_inTeG
(Post 157240)
What's the budget on this build?
$1200 over 6 months Machine Work $400 Parts $400 Random ---- $400 |
Actually I just redid the budget and it's gonna be under $600 easily.
Anyways the block, head and new crank without a spun bearing has been sent off to the machine shop. Updates should come within 2 weeks. |
Originally Posted by WildoutWhiteGSR
(Post 157917)
Actually I just redid the budget and it's gonna be under $600 easily.
Anyways the block, head and new crank without a spun bearing has been sent off to the machine shop. Updates should come within 2 weeks. |
Trennel i say battle of the egs. Your going down:O:O
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Damn T, you waste no time!!
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Looking good so far.
Will check back in 2 weeks for updates. |
Originally Posted by non-VTEC
(Post 157928)
will this engine be up and running before fuzzy's? :laugh1:
Originally Posted by born2board69
(Post 157936)
Trennel i say battle of the egs. Your going down:O:O
Battle of what, who's gonna be done first? I think we know who wins that.;) I'll even help you build your motor :finger: |
Originally Posted by WildoutWhiteGSR
(Post 157948)
Battle of what, who's gonna be done first? I think we know who wins that.;)
I'll even help you build your motor :finger: But definatly great job with yours and yours is defiantly getting alot more man hours in the motor then mine will. And thanks for the offer i might have to give you a shout one day :D |
Engine will be coming home this week from the machine shop all cleaned up and ready for me to begin the re-assembly. Will take pics once it's home.
Right now the block is done, the head is done and the valves are done. Just waiting on the crank to come back from micropolishing; then the rod's being checked for bore alignment and having the arp rod bolts installed. |
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So the motor is mostly done, only little stuff have to be added on. Brackets and such.
Onto the pics All cleaned up from the machine shop Attachment 21091 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...p/IMG_0891.jpg Attachment 21092 Attachment 21093 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...p/IMG_0894.jpg Attachment 21094 Attachment 21095 Two monkey's working on the block Attachment 21096 The third monkey working on the head Attachment 21097 Attachment 21098 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...p/IMG_0903.jpg No more talking, just engine built pics Attachment 21099 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...p/IMG_0910.jpg Attachment 21100 Attachment 21101 Attachment 21102 Attachment 21103 Attachment 21104 Attachment 21105 Attachment 21106 Attachment 21107 Attachment 21108 Attachment 21109 Attachment 21110 Attachment 21111 Attachment 21112 Attachment 21113 Attachment 21114 Attachment 21115 Monkey 3 Finishes the head, before the 1 & 2 monkey Attachment 21116 Attachment 21117 Block ready for the pistons Attachment 21118 Attachment 21119 Attachment 21120 Attachment 21121 Attachment 21122 Attachment 21123 Attachment 21124 Attachment 21125 Attachment 21126 Attachment 21127 Attachment 21128 Attachment 21129 Attachment 21130 Attachment 21131 Attachment 21132 Attachment 21133 Attachment 21134 |
looking good T!
did u stay within your budget for all this? |
Lots of respect go out to Bryan and Fuzzy for lending a hand in helping me put together this motor. Without Fuzzy's help in putting together the head, I would have spent another 2-3 hours alone on it. Thanks to Bryan I didn't go crazy plastigaging all the bearings with the girdle in the way, causing so many issues trying to torque down the rod bolts.
In all we started at 11pm on Friday and finished at 4am Saturday. Cheapest build I've done yet. $470 for machine work $120 for rod and main bearings $75 for ARP rod bolts $40 for all the gasket's in the head and a FREE timing belt Install into the car will probably happen next weekend and I will update the thread then with more pics. |
Originally Posted by TwoSix
(Post 159982)
looking good T!
did u stay within your budget for all this? Anyways added the prices above |
as usual, I am impressed. Good job guys. I gotta learn how to do all that stuff. It seems so interesting and gratifying.
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nice build. Is Boost in the near future for that little thing?
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i hate you trenell. i wish my motor was that cheap and i wish that my valve springs went in as easy as yours too. it was actually pretty fun to put that head together.
Fuzzy > SOHC valvesprings. |
Damn awesome work guys, i like how you have your own pit crew :)
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Damn, I would pay just to watch you guys put that together. That's crazy, good job guys.
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^between making fun of eachother, throwing things at eachother, swearing, and teaching the chineese guy to speak like a carribian; it was pretty fun..haha
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How much was the tab at Denny's??
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^^surprisingly Ryan...we haven't gone to Denny's in a very long time!
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Trenell... I think its time you invest in an engine stand :P
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Originally Posted by FuzzyLS BRO
(Post 160023)
it was actually pretty fun to put that head together.
yikes :jack: |
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