Type R vs. GSR
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From: Mississauga
Originally Posted by GuCCi_GSR
Considering the GSR baselines at 170 hp and the ITR has 195 hp, I would take the ITR because obviously the basic bolt on's would yield better results. But it depends on your budget and what you want. Looks or speed?
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From: MICROSOFT CORP.
Theft sucks with an R. See what your insurance rates will be and how often you will need to drive it. If you don't have a garage, don't even consider the R. Likewise if you will be driving it to school or to work in an unmonitored lot.
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From: toronto
well i do have a garage with top of the line alarm system, and i will be driving it mostly everywhere. Is there a problem with that ?? U dont think the type r can handle it. 
P.S. Id never tell anyone what i have under the hood and my tegra's a RS soo no one would no.
P.S. Id never tell anyone what i have under the hood and my tegra's a RS soo no one would no.
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From: Hamilton
was i the only one that thought he was talking about the engines?
Definately go with the b18c5. If and when you decide to upgrade there are people that grab up stock ITR parts (header, intake manifold, cams) like they're going out of style.
Definately go with the b18c5. If and when you decide to upgrade there are people that grab up stock ITR parts (header, intake manifold, cams) like they're going out of style.
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From: Hamilton
well a type R has a red valve cover, 4-1 exhaust manifold, way different intake manifold than the gsr (the ITR manifold looks like a fancy version of the b16 intake manifold, whereas the GSR swoops down and has the secondaries), all ITR trannies have factory LSD so check the differential when buying.
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From: Whitby
Originally Posted by LivinLow
B18C1=GSR Black valve cover,Weird looking intake manifold.
B18C5=Type R Wrinkle Red valve cover.
I'm forgetting sumthing else.
B18C5=Type R Wrinkle Red valve cover.
I'm forgetting sumthing else.
In Japan there's only B18C. There no C1 or C5 on the end.
The way to tell the difference is between the two is:
-vin number
-head stamp code
-serial number on the tranny
-intake manifold, but that's easy to swap
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From: Hamilton
Originally Posted by WildoutWhiteGSR
And what if the owner swap the valve cover with a itr one? Then what.
In Japan there's only B18C. There no C1 or C5 on the end.
The way to tell the difference is between the two is:
-vin number
-head stamp code
-serial number on the tranny
-intake manifold, but that's easy to swap
In Japan there's only B18C. There no C1 or C5 on the end.
The way to tell the difference is between the two is:
-vin number
-head stamp code
-serial number on the tranny
-intake manifold, but that's easy to swap
But you can check the code stamped on the front of the head for an ITR it should say pr3-1/2/3/4 while the gsr head will have p72 stamped on it.
Now if you're that suspicious that it may not be a legit ITR, pull the valve cover off and check out the cams. The ITR cams have a much larger VTEC cam lobe than gsr cams.
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Originally Posted by WildoutWhiteGSR
And what if the owner swap the valve cover with a itr one? Then what.
In Japan there's only B18C. There no C1 or C5 on the end.
The way to tell the difference is between the two is:
-vin number
-head stamp code
-serial number on the tranny
-intake manifold, but that's easy to swap
In Japan there's only B18C. There no C1 or C5 on the end.
The way to tell the difference is between the two is:
-vin number
-head stamp code
-serial number on the tranny
-intake manifold, but that's easy to swap
As i stated very clearly i'm forgetting something.Which was the headstamp code.
Considering the ITR use's a B16 PR3 head which is only mildly ported from the factory and of course bigger cams better valvetrain.It still remains to have a PR3 stamp on it.
It will also have the ITR exhaust 4-2-1 exhaust manifold,If some one decided to change that which is very doubtful(if buying from an importer) then look at the other things listed.
And another thing,Who said we were talking about strictly JDM engines.I didn't see him list which is better a JDM ITR or JDM GSR i saw nothing of the sort.
Sorry but not this time.
Last edited by LivinLow; Jan 10, 2006 at 01:40 PM.
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From: Whitby
Originally Posted by LivinLow
You just love trying to be a dick as much as you can eh!
As i stated very clearly i'm forgetting something.Which was the headstamp code.
Considering the ITR use's a B16 PR3 head which is only mildly ported from the factory and of course bigger cams better valvetrain.It still remains to have a PR3 stamp on it.
It will also have the ITR exhaust 4-2-1 exhaust manifold,If some one decided to change that which is very doubtful(if buying from an importer) then look at the other things listed.
And another thing,Who said we were talking about strictly JDM engines.I didn't see him list which is better a JDM ITR or JDM GSR i saw nothing of the sort.
Sorry but not this time.
As i stated very clearly i'm forgetting something.Which was the headstamp code.
Considering the ITR use's a B16 PR3 head which is only mildly ported from the factory and of course bigger cams better valvetrain.It still remains to have a PR3 stamp on it.
It will also have the ITR exhaust 4-2-1 exhaust manifold,If some one decided to change that which is very doubtful(if buying from an importer) then look at the other things listed.
And another thing,Who said we were talking about strictly JDM engines.I didn't see him list which is better a JDM ITR or JDM GSR i saw nothing of the sort.
Sorry but not this time.
I'm glad you believe every importer just buys stock engines. I guess people in Japan don't ever mod there car and every importer is so honest.
The dude asked how to tell the engine's apart if there both just B18C or did you miss that part as well? Here it is for you.
Originally Posted by IntegraRS
Doesn't the GSR and Type R have the same code. From Japan ??
Originally Posted by IntegraRS
how can u tell them apart
P72 Head = JDM/USDM 94+ GSR
Originally Posted by LivinLow
It will also have the ITR exhaust 4-2-1 exhaust manifold,If some one decided to change that which is very doubtful(if buying from an importer) then look at the other things listed.
Originally Posted by zman
ITR's have a 4-1 exhaust manifold by the way.
96-97 JDM ITR Header = 4-2-1 Design 2.5 Collector
98-01 JDM ITR Header = 4-1 Design 2.5 Collector
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Actualy like i very cleary stated in that thread,I was asking you how you knew it was a mugen knock off.I also believe i thanked you for explaining to me how you knew it was a knock off because i didn't see the difference.Geez if this is what u get for giving thanks you sir need to work on you're people skills.
Why would i be mad about it? I have a very pretty valve cover that didn't cost me $900us I somehow see jelousy because you keep bringing it back up,It's dead,Shutup about it
He's asking to tell USDM and JDM apart,Not just JDM engines which you provided to him.
And yes i do trust importers,The REPUTABLE ones like i stated very clearly again.I never said they ALL come completly stock BUT the chances of you getting a modded motor are very slim.So whoopty do.
Why would i be mad about it? I have a very pretty valve cover that didn't cost me $900us I somehow see jelousy because you keep bringing it back up,It's dead,Shutup about it
He's asking to tell USDM and JDM apart,Not just JDM engines which you provided to him.
And yes i do trust importers,The REPUTABLE ones like i stated very clearly again.I never said they ALL come completly stock BUT the chances of you getting a modded motor are very slim.So whoopty do.
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From: Whitby
Originally Posted by zman
^^^ wow your good at repeating what everyone else has said in this thread.
People will read this thread and think that all JDM itr's come with a 4-1 header, when in case that's not the fact. If your gonna give advice in the tech section that's one thing, but you gotta make sure the info is correct at all times. If you didn't know that yourself then that's different
