Type R vs. GSR
 

What do u guy perfer ITR or GSR?? What would be a better choice.

What do you want to do with it?

basically leave it stock but add like little things like intake exhaust ecu headers and little things like that. nothing major

take the R

thats what i was thinking . probably a better choice

ITR for sure. With some better cams and valve train those things can sing to 9,000+

Considering the GSR baselines at 170 hp and the ITR has 195 hp, I would take the ITR because obviously the basic bolt on's would yield better results. But it depends on your budget and what you want. Looks or speed?

my R is for sale, its got a whole brand new engine installed by Acura on brant in burlington....(old 1 was burning oil..) LTOS of new parts...

PM me for more details...

ITR LSD tranny > GSR tranny

I agree, it depends on your budget. However if $$$ is not a problem then without a doubt, get the R!

Theft sucks with an R. See what your insurance rates will be and how often you will need to drive it. If you don't have a garage, don't even consider the R. Likewise if you will be driving it to school or to work in an unmonitored lot.

well i do have a garage with top of the line alarm system, and i will be driving it mostly everywhere. Is there a problem with that ?? U dont think the type r can handle it. :) P.S. Id never tell anyone what i have under the hood and my tegra's a RS soo no one would no.

was i the only one that thought he was talking about the engines?
Definately go with the b18c5. If and when you decide to upgrade there are people that grab up stock ITR parts (header, intake manifold, cams) like they're going out of style.

Doesn't the GSR and Type R have the same code. From Japan ??

yup

how can u tell them apart

OH you're talking about just buying a motor...

just make sure it's legit then... o_O

how can i tell if its gsr or type r

well a type R has a red valve cover, 4-1 exhaust manifold, way different intake manifold than the gsr (the ITR manifold looks like a fancy version of the b16 intake manifold, whereas the GSR swoops down and has the secondaries), all ITR trannies have factory LSD so check the differential when buying.

kool thx.

B18C1=GSR Black valve cover,Weird looking intake manifold.

B18C5=Type R Wrinkle Red valve cover.

I'm forgetting sumthing else.

but isnt gsr B18C5 also ??

*holding back*.....no, no its not.

my cats breath smells like cat food

And what if the owner swap the valve cover with a itr one? Then what. :rolleyes:



In Japan there's only B18C. There no C1 or C5 on the end.

The way to tell the difference is between the two is:
-vin number
-head stamp code
-serial number on the tranny
-intake manifold, but that's easy to swap

Actually, the GSR (p72) intake manifold isn't easily interchangable with the ITR (p73) intake manifold because the bolt pattern is different.
But you can check the code stamped on the front of the head for an ITR it should say pr3-1/2/3/4 while the gsr head will have p72 stamped on it.
Now if you're that suspicious that it may not be a legit ITR, pull the valve cover off and check out the cams. The ITR cams have a much larger VTEC cam lobe than gsr cams.

I wasn't refering to changing from a itr manifold to gsr manifold. I mean if it has a aftermarket intake manifold. ie skunk2, aebs, blox, je etc

You just love trying to be a dick as much as you can eh!

As i stated very clearly i'm forgetting something.Which was the headstamp code.

Considering the ITR use's a B16 PR3 head which is only mildly ported from the factory and of course bigger cams better valvetrain.It still remains to have a PR3 stamp on it.

It will also have the ITR exhaust 4-2-1 exhaust manifold,If some one decided to change that which is very doubtful(if buying from an importer) then look at the other things listed.

And another thing,Who said we were talking about strictly JDM engines.I didn't see him list which is better a JDM ITR or JDM GSR i saw nothing of the sort.

Sorry but not this time. :jack:

well you did say black covers are gsr and red is itr...

black covers also are on b16's..
covers can be swapped..

what about yellow covers? :howudoin:

Any reputable engine importer knows what their getting and selling.

If he's buying privatly then their are those little things to watch out for.

Yellow covers eh! Hmmm i'll stick to mugen,I favour Grey

so get rid of your knock-off and get a real one :p:giggle:

If only it were more affordable like spoon :(

Spoon affordable? ----, even I wouldnt pay 5 bills for a OEM Valvecover painted yellow!

lol thats were Spoon is affordable.

Mugen cover is $900US :S

wow, who in their right mind would pay $900US for a valve cover. You could prolly get one made of 24K gold for that price.
ITR's have a 4-1 exhaust manifold by the way.

Really i thought they were 4-2-1 like every other honda/acura,Meh learn sumthing new everyday

Yeah I'm the dick. Still mad about the mugen valve cover I see...

I'm glad you believe every importer just buys stock engines. I guess people in Japan don't ever mod there car and every importer is so honest. :jeez:

The dude asked how to tell the engine's apart if there both just B18C or did you miss that part as well? Here it is for you.

PR3 Head = JDM/USDM ITR/B17/B16A/B
P72 Head = JDM/USDM 94+ GSR

They have both

96-97 JDM ITR Header = 4-2-1 Design 2.5 Collector
98-01 JDM ITR Header = 4-1 Design 2.5 Collector

^^^ wow your good at repeating what everyone else has said in this thread.

Actualy like i very cleary stated in that thread,I was asking you how you knew it was a mugen knock off.I also believe i thanked you for explaining to me how you knew it was a knock off because i didn't see the difference.Geez if this is what u get for giving thanks you sir need to work on you're people skills.

Why would i be mad about it? I have a very pretty valve cover that didn't cost me $900us I somehow see jelousy because you keep bringing it back up,It's dead,Shutup about it

He's asking to tell USDM and JDM apart,Not just JDM engines which you provided to him.

And yes i do trust importers,The REPUTABLE ones like i stated very clearly again.I never said they ALL come completly stock BUT the chances of you getting a modded motor are very slim.So whoopty do.

If you give fully correct info I wouldn't have to. :rolleyes:


People will read this thread and think that all JDM itr's come with a 4-1 header, when in case that's not the fact. If your gonna give advice in the tech section that's one thing, but you gotta make sure the info is correct at all times. If you didn't know that yourself then that's different