infamou$

https://www.torontointegras.ca/forum...ighlight=turbo
(Buying someone else's turbo)

https://www.torontointegras.ca/forum...ighlight=turbo
(Fuzzy's turbo project)

I also checked out some info on www.homemadeturbo.com as well...

for a start....
Anyway, my question is...I was wondering what you guys think about going turbo?

I bought my car (96 Integra B18B) with a rebuilt motor that came with, headers, short ram intake, AEM cam gers, AEM pulley, reprogrammed ECU, high fuel pressure regulator, lightweight flywheel, (I think those are all the engine mods I can think of)

I realized I would like to increase the horsepower, but I am unsure whether to keep going NA or do a turbo setup. I realize that I will lose my headers and shortram. I know I can upgrade the camshafts along with a spring and retainer kit, catback exhaust to get more hp, but these things can come along even with a turbo.

I was wondering what your input would be (for ppl that have/had a turbo setup in the GTA and its rather 'interesting weather' lol bc this car will be driven year round, and to know both the pros and cons (ie leaks, maintenance issues) of having such a setup.

Any info would be appreciated
Thnx

infamou$

sorry, but I am also aware of blowing my motor by running on stock internals, however I plan on not exceeding boost by 7-8psi. I don't want a very aggresvive turbo setup, maybe just enough to get 200-220 whp. I am also
aware that I will prolly need a new clutch bc of the newfound horsepower.

I know that I will need to do a compression and leakdown test to first find out the condition of my motor to see if it can handle the boost.

Thnx again

WildoutWhiteGSR

how fast do you want to go? 13's, 12's, 11's?

is this a track car, daily driven car, weekend warrior, drag, auto-x, road racing...?

both are expensive, the main difference between N/A and Turbo is N/A you can do over time. Turbo you need to buy all the parts all at once and then slap them on.

weiR

it will be more difficult to build a b18b for n/a power than say a b18c. you will probably spend the same money as a decent boost setup and not make as much power. if you plan to go n/a then vtec is your friend. your engine would be happier with boost. you can run your goal of 7-8psi on the stock internals and should easily make 220-240whp with some proper tuning. the problem with boost is once you start you will want more and the limits are much higher than if you go n/a.

zman

i've tune a few turbo hondas lately that are year round daily driven, and they don't have any issues, other than traction...lol.
Running a turbo at 7-8psi will get old quick, and unless you go all out with a crazy custom turbo manifold, 3" exhaust, better intake manifold and larger throttle body, it will take more than 7-8psi to hit 240WHP....especially on a LS.
The last LS i tuned made 251whp at 13psi (bone bone stock) with a crappy cast iron manifold and 2.5" exhaust (with a 2" bottleneck by the muffler), it was a $1400 ebay turbo kit and a pretty conservative tune. Its been well over 6 months since he's installed his turbo kit, and he drove it all winter, relatively problem free....other than the odd oil leak.
I'd say go boost, coming from someone who's spent lots of money on my n/a build. Boost is the best bang for buck, and if your not happy with your 7-8 psi then get a boost controller and turn the boost up, your limiting factor isn't the boost levels, its how much power the block can handle....and with b18a/b's your looking at over 300WHP before stuff will start to break.
B18a/b for n/a will need a vtec head for sure.

1999_ITR

I'm an N/A guy through and through but being realistic if you are looking for big power, then bang for the buck, you can't beat boost.

infamou$

This car is a daily driver, that'll be a weekend warrior car on some weekends lol I don't have any immediate plans for joining any Motorcross (however this could be in its future, i've learned to never say never), or be doing any street racing.

1/4 mile times I don't have a specific goal as of yet, and I am still in the midst of doing my research and I've come across doing a supercharger setup where I can keep my headers, and it is a strictly bolt on mod. However I found an SC to be quite an expensive kit bc of its lack of availability (used) and brand new is pretty expensive as well, and it only comes with a limited increase of hp
Jackson Racing --> 129-161 ($1995 USD) WHP
Vortec --> 140 - 180 (approx $4800 USD) Flywheel HP

So it looks like it's going to be boost. I know I have MUCH more research to do and lots to learn. This project is not going to be an instantaneous one that'll be done overnight. I plan to take my time and either find a premade used kit (if i can save up enough), or piece together my own (due to my lack of funds, I am a Uni student and have other expenses). Once the kit is complete, I plan to install it and tune it at the same time.

Thnx all for the help, anymore is much appreciated

Btw Wildout, I posted a thread about 'a weird idle noise', it was due to my pulley. Since its a smaller pulley, it needed to work harder and run faster when the temps were frigid, once it got warmer the noise never came back. Thnx again

FuzzyLS BRO

don't toss out the thought about going K-series.

Paolo

I have had a B16 and GSR, with header, full exhaust, and chipped. I have a boosted LS, one that was mentioned in this thread, and by the way Zman , it was 255whp, u better recognize, lol. I have had no problems, except i blew a oil pan gasket ( not saying that was becasue of the boost ). I would recommend going boost. Especially if you can get your hands dirty and do it urself , or u have someone that can help you. You would be amazed and how cheap you can do it. 7-8 psi, that wont last long man, i said the same, now im trying to go for 15psi. Even with my car on 8psi, i couldnt compare it to my b16 or GSR, its a totally different drive, and well worth the money. Keep in mind the B16 and GSR were also stock. I have met a few people who put alot of money into there N/A, and where not happy at all with the amount of money spent, compared to the HP results.

Torqueless_In_Toronto

In a FWD car like a Teg especially an LS that has no LSD, I would stay away from FI. What you have to remember is that even moderate boost levels will also bring your torque up close to 200ft-lbs. Even a fully built B20 Vtec or K-series doesnt come close to that. This will result in alot of driveability issues unless you plan on doing third or fourth gear highway pulls exclusively.

civicdx

The b18b is a very good motor to build on, its got decent torque, its a 1.8 and has alot of potential. Get alot of head work done, you will want an aftermarket intake manifold, throw crower stage 2 cams in it (idles almost like stock) + springs and retainers, toss some pr3 pistons in there, and you already have all the boltons so thats a plus. Mate that motor to a b16 tranny and have some fun.

infamou$

hmm, thnx for all the info guys appreciate it
I still have lots of research to do, and i'll let you guys know what'll happen