Running rich
09-05-2006, 07:14 AM
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if every thing is stock. It will be rich to make up for the extra Air your putting to it at high RPM so it dose not starve.
i would go with some sort of AFC
http://www.apexi-usa.com/product_ele...=201&pageNum=1
i would go with some sort of AFC
http://www.apexi-usa.com/product_ele...=201&pageNum=1
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09-05-2006, 02:31 PM
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fpr is not the answer and don't get an afc, i had one it was a waste of money imo. get some proper ecu tuning done with a wideband.
what other work was done when the charger was installed? were larger injectors installed as well? i find it strange that you are running rich since having started adding more air into your combustion chamber. usually that results in a lean condition.
what other work was done when the charger was installed? were larger injectors installed as well? i find it strange that you are running rich since having started adding more air into your combustion chamber. usually that results in a lean condition.
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09-05-2006, 02:39 PM
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The JRSC comes with a bigger pump, FMU (adjustable) and possibly a "fuel enrichment circuit" (similar to the ones sold on ebay).
There's not much you can do with the off-the-shelf setup, but if you ditch most of the JR stuff, go to some bigger injectors and get a good tuner to do some work, you'll be much better off.
There's not much you can do with the off-the-shelf setup, but if you ditch most of the JR stuff, go to some bigger injectors and get a good tuner to do some work, you'll be much better off.
09-05-2006, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Smartass pHO
The JRSC comes with a bigger pump, FMU (adjustable) and possibly a "fuel enrichment circuit" (similar to the ones sold on ebay).
There's not much you can do with the off-the-shelf setup, but if you ditch most of the JR stuff, go to some bigger injectors and get a good tuner to do some work, you'll be much better off.
There's not much you can do with the off-the-shelf setup, but if you ditch most of the JR stuff, go to some bigger injectors and get a good tuner to do some work, you'll be much better off.
09-05-2006, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by weiRtech
fpr is not the answer and don't get an afc, i had one it was a waste of money imo. get some proper ecu tuning done with a wideband.
what other work was done when the charger was installed? were larger injectors installed as well? i find it strange that you are running rich since having started adding more air into your combustion chamber. usually that results in a lean condition.
what other work was done when the charger was installed? were larger injectors installed as well? i find it strange that you are running rich since having started adding more air into your combustion chamber. usually that results in a lean condition.
09-06-2006, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan_EL_King
Dyno tune and street tune 
It will idle like stock.
Thats what I had done to my car. If you got the cash do it.
DAN
It will idle like stock.Thats what I had done to my car. If you got the cash do it.
DAN
09-06-2006, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by YellowTypy
How much was the dyno/street tune? Now to tune it what do I need. I am going to need a computer or can someone that knows what they are doing just use my stock ecu?
I went to NHR (Neetronics). I'm using a chipped P28 ECU. It was on the dyno for 5 hrs and street tuned for 30 mins.
My gas mileage didn't decrease that much and the car is very reliable.
They charged me $160/hour for the dyno, and the street tune was free.
So if you got the cash, do it. Never cheap out on tuning.
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09-07-2006, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan_EL_King
Well my car is turbocharged.
I went to NHR (Neetronics). I'm using a chipped P28 ECU. It was on the dyno for 5 hrs and street tuned for 30 mins.
My gas mileage didn't decrease that much and the car is very reliable.
They charged me $160/hour for the dyno, and the street tune was free.
So if you got the cash, do it. Never cheap out on tuning.
DAN
I went to NHR (Neetronics). I'm using a chipped P28 ECU. It was on the dyno for 5 hrs and street tuned for 30 mins.
My gas mileage didn't decrease that much and the car is very reliable.
They charged me $160/hour for the dyno, and the street tune was free.
So if you got the cash, do it. Never cheap out on tuning.
DAN
09-07-2006, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by weiRtech
imo you should street tune first to get a good base map and figure out all the bugs before you spend that much on the dyno. it will also bring the dyno time you need down dramatically. i'd say 3-4 hours on the street and 2 hours on the dyno max.
Sidenote: I had a Chrome basemap(ran like crap) on my car, Paul just ripped it out and put a new chip in and started from scratch.
My car runs great, I have no complaints.
DAN
09-07-2006, 10:40 AM
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Paul knows what he is doing, but he always tunes conservatively. So he's a great guy to go to, to ensure you have a reliable whip. Just remember, the numbers you put down on his dyno (a Mustang dyno) will be much lower than those on a DynoJet dyno, the typical standard.
Do don't be freaked out by only having in my case, 137hp at the wheels on my ITR NA, when I had it. It acutally put down on a dynoJet 177
Do don't be freaked out by only having in my case, 137hp at the wheels on my ITR NA, when I had it. It acutally put down on a dynoJet 177
09-07-2006, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 2qwik2nv
Paul knows what he is doing, but he always tunes conservatively. So he's a great guy to go to, to ensure you have a reliable whip. Just remember, the numbers you put down on his dyno (a Mustang dyno) will be much lower than those on a DynoJet dyno, the typical standard.
Do don't be freaked out by only having in my case, 137hp at the wheels on my ITR NA, when I had it. It acutally put down on a dynoJet 177
Do don't be freaked out by only having in my case, 137hp at the wheels on my ITR NA, when I had it. It acutally put down on a dynoJet 177
I put down 180whp on his dyno. I wonder what the DynoJet dyno would spit out...haha
DAN
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