ls-vtec
#1
ls-vtec
i just got an integra and in time i wanna get a more powerful engine im browsing to see whats good and i was told about the ls-vtec what do u guys think about it in terms of power, reliability, and life
#2
want a strong LS vtec?
b16 head complete you can get for $600 with distributor
Golden Eagle Complete LS/b20 Vtec kit you can buy for Less than $500.
Includes: headstuds, head gasket, oil sandwich adapter, fittings, oil line for vtec etc.. Complete Kit for your vtec conversion.
ARP Rod Bolts $120?
ARP MainStuds $100, Not 100% necessary but still a good investment I find.
Pistons: RC machines PR3 spec 81.5mm Pistons $300 comp ratio around 11:1 in LS blocks
Type R oil Pump, water Pump and Timing belt. OEM Honda $350ish
310 cc injectors or bigger (rc injectors $300), Prelude Injectors work well. (345cc) Can be had for around $75
Header: (Stock wont cut it)
DC sports: $300
Megan Racing $300
OEM Type R 4-1 $400
Toda $700
Rage and more higher end headers $900+++
Fuel Pump (optional) Walbro 255lph $150
valvetrain (optional)
Full Omni Power Valvetrain $700 (valves, springs, retainers)
Ferrea Racing valvetrain $850ish (valves, springs, retainers)
Skunk2 Valvetrain $750ish (valves, springs, retainers)
Cams (Optional)
Type R/Civic Type R $3-400
Skunk2 $700ish
RM (rocket motorsports) $650ish
Toda B's or C's $900 ++
Engine Assembly:
You providing all the parts above, Many of the affliates and a few other machine shops will assemble a LS/B20 VTEC Head and bottem end, machinging, boring and honing w/ assembly for around $800.
Atleast that is what it has cost me and a few friends in the few i've put together personally.
Motor Installation:
Most of any Mechanic shops even affiliates on here Charge roughly $500 ++ to do a swap.
TUNING (100% A MUST)
Most affliates as well as some members of the TI board offer tuning services. Ranging from around $300 and up. Deffinately a Key role in having a healthy running reliable Motor. Not to mention Maximizing your engines performance Potential.
Motor Build GRAND TOTAL: (build including components)
Head: $600
Golden Eagle LS/b20 Vtec kit $500
RC Machines Pistons: $300
ARP Main Studs: $100
ARP Rod Bolts: $120
OEM Honda Type R Oil Pump, water Pump, timing belt: $350
Injectors Prelude: $75
Fuel Pump $150
Header: DC or Megan $300 or add difference if you go with the higher end ones.
Engine Assembly: $800
Tuning: Minimum $300
GRAND TOTAL rounded: $3600
This Price does not reflect Installation of motor in your vehicle. And on top of all that you would need to get yourself a B series Tranny if you dont already have one which will run you anywhere from $400=$1200 depending on which one you want to run.
Axles and linkages would run you around another $300.
ECU Chipped p28's usually work well with this set up. That would cost you around $250, and if your car is obd2 you would need a Conversion harness which would run you about $100-150.
Hope Im not missing anything, if I am Im sure somebody will add it in for me.
Best of Luck with whatever you decide to do! I can't Stress enough how important TUNING is!
b16 head complete you can get for $600 with distributor
Golden Eagle Complete LS/b20 Vtec kit you can buy for Less than $500.
Includes: headstuds, head gasket, oil sandwich adapter, fittings, oil line for vtec etc.. Complete Kit for your vtec conversion.
ARP Rod Bolts $120?
ARP MainStuds $100, Not 100% necessary but still a good investment I find.
Pistons: RC machines PR3 spec 81.5mm Pistons $300 comp ratio around 11:1 in LS blocks
Type R oil Pump, water Pump and Timing belt. OEM Honda $350ish
310 cc injectors or bigger (rc injectors $300), Prelude Injectors work well. (345cc) Can be had for around $75
Header: (Stock wont cut it)
DC sports: $300
Megan Racing $300
OEM Type R 4-1 $400
Toda $700
Rage and more higher end headers $900+++
Fuel Pump (optional) Walbro 255lph $150
valvetrain (optional)
Full Omni Power Valvetrain $700 (valves, springs, retainers)
Ferrea Racing valvetrain $850ish (valves, springs, retainers)
Skunk2 Valvetrain $750ish (valves, springs, retainers)
Cams (Optional)
Type R/Civic Type R $3-400
Skunk2 $700ish
RM (rocket motorsports) $650ish
Toda B's or C's $900 ++
Engine Assembly:
You providing all the parts above, Many of the affliates and a few other machine shops will assemble a LS/B20 VTEC Head and bottem end, machinging, boring and honing w/ assembly for around $800.
Atleast that is what it has cost me and a few friends in the few i've put together personally.
Motor Installation:
Most of any Mechanic shops even affiliates on here Charge roughly $500 ++ to do a swap.
TUNING (100% A MUST)
Most affliates as well as some members of the TI board offer tuning services. Ranging from around $300 and up. Deffinately a Key role in having a healthy running reliable Motor. Not to mention Maximizing your engines performance Potential.
Motor Build GRAND TOTAL: (build including components)
Head: $600
Golden Eagle LS/b20 Vtec kit $500
RC Machines Pistons: $300
ARP Main Studs: $100
ARP Rod Bolts: $120
OEM Honda Type R Oil Pump, water Pump, timing belt: $350
Injectors Prelude: $75
Fuel Pump $150
Header: DC or Megan $300 or add difference if you go with the higher end ones.
Engine Assembly: $800
Tuning: Minimum $300
GRAND TOTAL rounded: $3600
This Price does not reflect Installation of motor in your vehicle. And on top of all that you would need to get yourself a B series Tranny if you dont already have one which will run you anywhere from $400=$1200 depending on which one you want to run.
Axles and linkages would run you around another $300.
ECU Chipped p28's usually work well with this set up. That would cost you around $250, and if your car is obd2 you would need a Conversion harness which would run you about $100-150.
Hope Im not missing anything, if I am Im sure somebody will add it in for me.
Best of Luck with whatever you decide to do! I can't Stress enough how important TUNING is!
Last edited by djtrini; 03-22-2007 at 12:22 PM.
#4
don't just slap a vtec head on your stock LS block...thats no fun.
If you're gunna build a LSvtec, you need to change the pistons out for some b16 or ITR pistons to get a higher compression ratio to really squeeze all the power out of that little 1.8L that you can.
If you're gunna build a LSvtec, you need to change the pistons out for some b16 or ITR pistons to get a higher compression ratio to really squeeze all the power out of that little 1.8L that you can.
#6
ls/vtec is good if it is built right. It makes great power but i've seen people having reliability issues with it.
Here is link explaining how to build the setup
http://hondaswap.com/general-tech-ar...r-vtec-info-8/
Here is link explaining how to build the setup
http://hondaswap.com/general-tech-ar...r-vtec-info-8/
#7
you don't need ARP mains, GE LSV kit, can probably still do it on a modded oem exhaust manifold, do not need anything more than a port matched P30 im, nor do you need anything really bigger than a CTR/S2S1 ($300).i just saved you about a grand.
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