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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 07:29 PM
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Car: 1990 acura GS 2dr
Engine/Tranny: B16a(1st), b16 tranny
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The issue: I heard a loud grinding noise coming from under my hood a few days ago (almost as if someone was shoveling snow) so i took a look and found that the noise was coming from the distributor.

The next day, my car didn't start, so sure enough I bought a brand new aftermarket distributor. I took the old one out and the bearing was gone.. Put the new one in and the noise problem seemed to be fixed. Changing the distributor was no big deal, it only goes in one way anyway, it's kinda hard to get it in wrong. I re-plugged the wires in the same position as the old one.

3 4

1 2
Bottom left (1), Bottom right (2), top left (3), top right (4)

When I took off the distributo, I didn't mark the position of the old one, I kinda figured I'll eye-ball it and put the new one in the same way.

When everything was installed, I turned the key, car didn't start. I played with the distributor (advanced/retarded the timing), still no luck. I took my sparkplugs out, they were wet(gas). I grounded the plugs individually, and got spark at all 4 pistons. I positioned piston #1(far driver side) to TDC by cranking the main pully, and took the distributor CAP off, and the rotor was at the 1st stud inside the cap, meaning that the timing was right...

I checked the ECU, it's giving me code 4, which is the Crankshaft Position Sensor (CPK ERROR)... The only thing i didn't do, was reset the ecu by disconnecting the battery (before or after changing distributor).


Now I'm stuck.. What do I do next???? any suggestions will help.. Do i need to change the CP Sensor? any ideas?

Thanks TI.
Old Jan 16, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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Hmmm I think it's how you have the spark plug wires plugged in I think it 1 4 3 2 from the point it shows To put the 1 in where tha marking is I think it's like a triangle.
Old Jan 16, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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same ----, different engine
Old Jan 16, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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If that pic is a lil confuising because its on a slant.

top left=1
bottom left=2
top right=3
bottom righ=4
Old Jan 16, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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Yes that's it I could not remeber correctly thanks anthony for correcting me.
Old Jan 16, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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I had to research this because i used the dizzy wires you gave me, to put on my dizzy, but i like the red ones instead. so i fuckedup and had to plug them back into the dizzy.

and man, it made me dizzy. haha (corny joke, shutup)
Old Jan 16, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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Was it cranking normally? Slow?
Also I've swapped few dizzies and never disconnected the battery. Nor marked anything for allignment. Always started and ran fine. Maybe a little rich/lean until I got to my buddies shop. Hell my motor now has no bottom timing belt cover so can't do timing. So I'm running a little rich and its fine.

For actual help, I'm stumped, if you are getting spark and fuel (since plugs were wet you said) the install went fine.
Would guess the cps could be the issue.
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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Check other things maybe? Fuel Pump? Alternator?
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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thanks for your inputs guys.. I just got back from cuba left on the 17th, came back today the 24th..

1) The distributor wires are plugged correctly

3 4
1 2 is the correct order 100% (done some research) on B-series... Also the stock plug wires are marked with a 1, 2, 3, 4 sticker tag on the side which tells you which piston's which... I didn't unplug the wires from the head, and i checked how they were before i took off the dizzy so that can't be the problem

2) yes 100% sure that the plugs were wet(gas) as i noticed when i took them out to check for spark.

3) I had spark at all 4 plugs, and compression seemed descent in all 4 pistons (checked by plugging the whole with my finger... Remember, the car was running just fine the night before, no problems..

4) Fuel pump can't be the problem, plugs were wet point (2)

The ECU was giving me the code for the Crank sensor... does anyone know what that is!??????? I think that might be my problem.
Old Jan 26, 2010 | 03:45 AM
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The cps is located by the harmonic balancer. To pull it out, I'm not entirely sure how.
After work ill look at service manual and if I find something, ill post a diagram.
Old Jan 26, 2010 | 06:04 AM
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The CPS is behind the crank pully, and you will need to remove the pull and the belts. Check all the wiring and make sure none of them are frayed and touching each outer.
Old Jan 26, 2010 | 06:50 AM
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have fun taking the harmonic balancer off...its pita
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