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RedTegra 11-26-2009 01:25 PM

b17
 
hey guys one of ma buddy is looking forward to doing a swap into his 94' dc. I found a full b17 gsr swap from 93' teg including tranny for a grand. I just wanted to know is it worth doing the swap or is it better to get another engine such as a b18 or b20.

JDM_overdose 11-26-2009 02:23 PM

for 1000$?? No way. I would say get a b18b1 or a b20.

Spike 11-26-2009 04:23 PM

Go another b18 or a b20 like i am doing.

RedTegra 11-26-2009 04:26 PM

is it because a grand is to much for a b17 or b18 and b20 are better?

8500 RPM 11-26-2009 04:35 PM

^^^ Both.

RedTegra 11-26-2009 04:45 PM

anyone have any hook ups on a b18b1 or b20b/b20z, and a b16 tranny or ls tranny.

Spike 11-26-2009 05:28 PM

I will be having a LS tranny for sale soon, like hopefully a week.

RedTegra 11-26-2009 05:49 PM

how many km on it, and how much will you sell it for

Spike 11-26-2009 05:53 PM

There's about 175,XXX km's on it, and I will be asking $250 OBO for it.

D.T.P 11-27-2009 03:34 AM

why would you decline a b17? it puts out more power than a b18 or b20. only downside is you cannot use the transmission since its cable and not hydraulic. if you sell the transmission and find yourself a b16 trans, you will be set. plus how often do you hear, i have 1.7L :P
but thats just me.

8500 RPM 11-27-2009 05:01 PM

Get a B18C1 or this: http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ171445343

Would the H22 fit?

RedTegra 11-27-2009 07:15 PM

buddies kinda on a budget, price range hes looking for is around 600 at the most.

B18C-UL8R 12-01-2009 07:08 PM

tell the guy 600 for the b17 no tranny, it wont work anyways.

1sickda 12-01-2009 09:12 PM

wow 1000 for b17 if it has decent milage and runs ok thats a steal.. those motors are extremely rare, not many b17s kicking around. i have 1 in my car and i payed 2500 for it 4 years ago with low milage with a mint tranny.

zman99 01-04-2010 10:55 PM

ls vtec

best of both worlds

JustinDM 01-05-2010 05:49 PM

Technically..... the b17 tranny can work. Since 2nd Gen GSR's only appeared in 92-93. The tranny casings are the same as the 94+. The only thing that is different from them are how the are actuated.

I remember reading a lot of threads on G2IC saying that you can transfer all the internals of a 92-93 trannies into 94+. I was contemplating doing that when I was getting a Type R swap into my 2nd Gen GSR.

Buff4Prez Yo 01-07-2010 04:02 PM

the tranny is ideal for someone looking for a swap in a g2. cable clutch, 2nd,3rd,4th and 5th are the same as USDM ITR with 4.4 FD.


the motor is better than a b16 but not by much. same hp with a tad more tq. parts can be used for ls/vtec or keep it all together for the sake of having honda's "black sheep" engine.

JDM_overdose 01-07-2010 04:28 PM

doesnt the b17 have 160hp. It does put out more then a b18 or b20. But for 1000$, and it came out of a DA, I wouldnt get it. You can pickup a b18b1 for around 400$.

Buff4Prez Yo 01-07-2010 04:38 PM

comparing prices from a local importer, also a vendor on this forum:
a b20 goes for $700 $ and an obd 1 b16 goes for $1000.

YS1 tranny's go for about $300-400 when you can find them.

do the math and figure it out if it's worth it for you.

Spike 01-07-2010 04:39 PM

the first gen B18's came with 140 hp, and the second gen came with 142 hp, and the first gen B20's are 126 hp, and the second gen are 146 hp.

Buff4Prez Yo 01-07-2010 04:50 PM

B16 1.6 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1595 158hp@7600rpm 112tq@7000rpm '90-'93 Integra XSi/RSi (JDM)

B16A 1.6 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1595 160hp@7800rpm 111tq@7300rpm '89-'91 Civic SiR (JDM)

B16A 1.6 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1595 170hp@7800rpm 116tq@7300rpm '92-'95 Civic (EUR)

B16A1 1.6 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1595 160hp@7600rpm 111tq@5200rpm '90-'91 Civic SiR (JDM)
'90-'91 CRX SiR (JDM)

B16A2 1.6 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1595 160hp@7600rpm 111tq@7000rpm '99-'00 Civic Si (USA) >

B16A3 1.6 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1595 160hp@7600rpm 111tq@7000rpm '93-'94 DelSol VTEC (USA)

B16A4 1.6 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1595 170hp@7800rpm ?? '96-'00 Civic Si-RII (JDM)

B16B 1.6 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1595 185hp@8200rpm 118tq@7500 '98-'01 Civic Type-R (JDM)

B17A1 1.7 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1678 160hp@7600rpm 117tq@7000rpm '92-'93 Integra GS-R (USA)

B18A 1.8 16V DOHC PGM-FI 1834 130hp@6000rpm 121tq@5000rpm '90-'91 Integra GS (USA)

B18B1 1.8 16V DOHC PGM-FI 1834 140hp@6300rpm 121tq@5200rpm '92-'93 Integra GS (USA)

B18B1 1.8 16V DOHC PGM-FI 1834 142hp@6300rpm 127tq@5200rpm '94-'00 Integra RS/LS/GS (USA)

B18C 1.8 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1797 178hp@7600rpm 129@6200rpm '95-'97 Integra SiR (JDM)

B18C1 1.8 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1797 170hp@7600rpm 128tq@6200rpm '94-'01 Integra GS-R

B18C5 1.8 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1797 195hp@7800rpm 130tq@7600rpm '98-'01 Integra Type-R (JDM)

B20B 2.0 16V DOHC PGM-FI 1997 126hp@5400rpm 133tq@4300rpm '97-'98 CR-V (USA)

B20Z 2.0 16V DOHC VTEC PGM-FI 1997 146hp@6400rpm 143tq@4500rpm '98-'01 CR-V (USA)

JDM_overdose 01-07-2010 05:00 PM

How much hp does a 1998 integra b18b1 have.

Buff4Prez Yo 01-07-2010 05:51 PM


B18B1 1.8 16V DOHC PGM-FI 1834 142hp@6300rpm 127tq@5200rpm '94-'00 Integra RS/LS/GS (USA)
what it does 12 years later is a different story.

my b18a did 125whp/121wtq two summers ago.

JDM_overdose 01-07-2010 05:55 PM

Wow. Thats really low. Whatever, im not in the scene to race. I will probably never exceed7000rpm in a bad manor.

Buff4Prez Yo 01-07-2010 06:04 PM

it's 12 more hp. than you have now depending on the condition of your current engine and the new one the difference will vary.


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