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ambs4l Dec 14, 2009 04:55 PM

After engine swap white smoke
 
Hey Guys,

I have just completed an engine swap b18b from b18b1 usdm.

Once I started white smoke started coming out the tail pipe. I leaked the oil and it was thick as hell. but before i leaked the oil i put in an engine flusher as the engine was sitting for a while and i want all the garbage out of the engine. I dunno if that was a good idea but its done now.

but again white smoke is coming out of the tail pipe and i dont know what it is, also i checked under neath the engine near the oil pan there was a little drop of anti freeze bright green so i know it is fresh. i can see where it came from but its there and continues very very slowly.

any ideas?

thanks

Hotrodcivic Dec 14, 2009 05:26 PM

blown head gasket maybe, does it get worse when you step on the gas?

JDM_overdose Dec 14, 2009 05:32 PM

Thats a blown head gasket. like hotrodcivic said, if it gets worse once you step on the gas then its the head gasket. Also, does the car shake ALOTTT?

I got a guy in niagara that will do it parts and labour for 900$. its regular around 1200

Hotrodcivic Dec 14, 2009 05:39 PM

also check for antifreeze blowing out the tail pipe.

Clarkee Dec 14, 2009 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by JDM_overdose (Post 293891)
I got a guy in niagara that will do it parts and labour for 900$. its regular around 1200

Why does that sound so expensive?
My mechanic charges about $500 for timing belt and water pump, and that's half the step to changing the head gasket.

$900-$1200 seems to be a lot, then again, i'm bad with estimating.

JDM_overdose Dec 14, 2009 06:17 PM

yea what am i saying. its 600$ for headgasket, i got timing and water done too, thats why it was 900$. my bad


Originally Posted by Clarkee (Post 293896)
Why does that sound so expensive?
My mechanic charges $300 for timing belt and water pump change, and that's half the step to changing the head gasket.

$900-$1200 seems to be a lot, then again, i'm bad with estimating.


Clarkee Dec 14, 2009 06:24 PM

Wow, I hope you are NOT paying $600 for head gasket...

By the well, you might as well change your water pump and timing belt if you change your head gasket. Your timing belt comes off, but not your water pump when doing a head gasket change, and if it wasn't changed recently, you might as well.

Hotrodcivic Dec 14, 2009 06:41 PM

I agree with Clarkee, you may as well change the timing and water pump while you have it all apart, I did mine in my Civic and it only cost me $400 total, pump, belt, oil and antifreeze

Clarkee Dec 14, 2009 06:48 PM

^ I would love to do my own changes like that but..

1. I don't have the most important tool, a torque wrench.
2. A mechanic's lift. I'm scared of getting under those home garage ones after one of them broke when my pops was working on his van.

Hotrodcivic Dec 14, 2009 07:15 PM

torque wrenches a re cheap enough, go to Princess Auto, as for the lift, get a set of jack stands, jack up drivers side and remove wheel, might have to remove splash guard as well, but either way, you're safe, everything else can be reached via top or side.

Clarkee Dec 14, 2009 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Hotrodcivic (Post 293914)
torque wrenches a re cheap enough, go to Princess Auto, as for the lift, get a set of jack stands, jack up drivers side and remove wheel, might have to remove splash guard as well, but either way, you're safe, everything else can be reached via top or side.

Yeah but cheap torque wrenches break easily and needs calibration rather quickly. I want a Snap-on or Mastercraft.

I have tons of jack stands, that's what broke so it makes me nervous. I put the wheel under the car so if it happens to drop, well, hopefully the wheel does some good.

Hotrodcivic Dec 14, 2009 07:36 PM

43lbs is the torque spec if I remember correctly so a cheapy torque wrench would suffice for now till you get a MC or Snap-On, putting the wheel under id just good practice, I do it all the time too, there's really nothing other than the head bolts that you'll have to "wrench on" therefore the car shouldn't move, and by the time you're ready to torque the bolts, your wheel is on and the car is off the jack stands. after that it's just setting the timing and toy good, 16 degrees advanced if memory serves me, just make sure that everything is TDC

Clarkee Dec 14, 2009 07:42 PM

Wheel is def. the best practice. Princess Auto is an awesome place though, I'll pick up a torque soon enough. I did ask for one for christmas LOL

AcuratePaul Dec 14, 2009 07:53 PM

you guys think its the head gasket cuz i gotta replace mine its leaking but im not getting any white smoke from the tail...My mechanic told me $700 parts are cheap but the labour is a bitch. My 2 Cents.

Hotrodcivic Dec 14, 2009 08:10 PM

Head gaskets are a pain in the ass but not too bad to do, hardest part in lining everything back up TDC, if you're not getting White smoke then check your first chamber, pull spark plug #1 and see if it has antifreeze in it, if it does, you have a blown head gasket (sprk plug #1 is the one CLOSEST to the driver's side)

D.T.P Dec 14, 2009 09:05 PM

I leave my car on bricks. Lol

Do not get the mastercraft torque wrench. Its complete garbage. Also, it could be the headhasket or warped head or bad head bolts.

Spike Dec 14, 2009 10:53 PM

White smoke would be your head gasket for sure. If it was blue, that would be oil, most likely valve seal. A head gasket job is a 7 hour job, I know I've done them in the pass. I know my shop will charge $500-$600 cash for labor, and then the price of parts.

JDM_overdose Dec 14, 2009 11:18 PM

^Coming from a mechanic.

and you guys think im wack for paying 600$ for parts n labour

Hotrodcivic Dec 14, 2009 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by JDM_overdose (Post 293956)
^Coming from a mechanic.

and you guys think im wack for paying 600$ for parts n labour

HAHA So am I a mechanic.

ambs4l Dec 15, 2009 07:21 PM

i changed the oil and there isnt any more smoke. the engine was sitting there for a whil but s very clean what do you guys think still head gasket?

AcuratePaul Dec 15, 2009 07:26 PM

First off you should have not ran it on the oil that was in there god knows how old it is...my head gasket is gone too but i am not producing any white smoke i just have a leak between my motor and tranny. Checked around the motor and tranny after it has been ran for awhile and see if there are any signs of any leaks anywhere.

JDM_overdose Dec 15, 2009 08:07 PM

No, i said ```Coming from a mechanic`` in a good way. Like, spike is saying it and hes a mechanic, so take his word. geezeeeee


Originally Posted by Hotrodcivic (Post 293962)
HAHA So am I a mechanic.


patrick3319 Dec 15, 2009 10:24 PM

I leak coolant, donno where from.... I THINK the rad, but I had a overheating problem once when my rad blew... so over the winter i'm being safe and getting the head machined and redoing the headgasket... and doing timing belt and waterpump while i'm at it... I'm told to get a MLS headgasket, is that what factory was as well? (since its aluminum head and block)

JDM_overdose Dec 15, 2009 10:37 PM

maybe your thermomiter is broken^

patrick3319 Dec 15, 2009 10:46 PM

I put in a brand new one... bought one from crappy tire and wasn't at all like the one I took out of the car, so took it back and bought one from acura, and what happened with my car was the heat would start to jump around (wouldn't actually overheat just started jumping around) and after a while, started leaking again! I noticed at one point the a/c compresser was pressing against the rad, which is why i'm debating it being that! i'm gonna be checking thermostat (removed a/c since it didn't work anyways)...

JDM_overdose Dec 15, 2009 10:48 PM

did u get in an accident b4. my fan was jammed into my rad and my car overheated like hell

patrick3319 Dec 15, 2009 10:51 PM

my friend I bought the car was in an accident and said the rad had a SLOW leak, after a pass at the track the rad went so he said fair is fair and bought me a brand new one... put in the brand new one, and after some passes at the track it blew... and when I checked I found out the a/c condenser had some metal parts sticking out, which in turn when the car hopped etc it rubbed up and down the rad busting it... so bought a used one smashed in the metal part and still seem to have a problem... my mechanic friends are a little confused and are said possibly headgasket to be having that problem...

AcuratePaul Dec 15, 2009 11:44 PM

Wow 2 rads huh... good idea on getting rid of a/c i got rid of mine too much to fix and to pointless, we live in canada if it gets to hot just wait few months and then its too cold. I dunno what the hell good be wrong could be the head gasket just thats pricey :(

JDM_overdose Dec 16, 2009 12:12 AM

hey acurate paul. mark that engine as SOLD. it is SOLD. i just talked to spike, im good to go with the swap, i wont need anything else

AcuratePaul Dec 16, 2009 02:52 PM

alright will do.

ambs4l Dec 20, 2009 04:31 AM

Hey Guys

Thanks for all the hits, the engine does not smoke anymore, guess it had to run for a bit. It's in the clear thanks again. A post whet up in regards to Dorr LOck issue take a look maybe you guys have tips.

Thanks,


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