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sick-teg 04-23-2009 11:30 PM

i want V-tec
 
hey you guys i have a problem.. i want vtec. im rocking a B18b dohc. and some guy across the street told me that i can put a b16 vtec head on it. and its pretty quick. now im not to sure if i should believe him because he drives a jetta =D but yeah can some one help me with that i kinda wanna do that up next payday.

thank you

Spike 04-23-2009 11:39 PM

Yes you can, thats what the ls/vtes is. My last civic engine was a b18b bottom end with a b16a2 head, it took my about 5 hours to swap the head, but it was my first time doing it, plus i was taking my sweet as time doing it. But yes you can do it with a little bit of work. You just need to buy GSR head gasket, water pump, and timing belt.

jdmnsx 04-23-2009 11:54 PM

yes you are righ

thusee 04-24-2009 12:43 AM

give you an idea of cost of some parts:

vtec head: 300+
tap the block and drill holes for oil lines: not sure
waterpump, timing belt, tensioner: 200$ more or less
and other stuff thats needed. so it adds up..
going ls/vtec can get pricey.

all adds up if u want to go the cheaper route grab a b16 motor which you can find on forums going anywhere between 500-1000$ and swap it in.

Vida 04-24-2009 12:52 AM

Really?
Hmmmm cuse I was pretty much looking to do a vtec on mine too. I'd just need the parts. I have an LS too.

k1e1v1i1n 04-24-2009 12:55 AM

after i get some cash together i am gona twist spikes arm till he dose mine on the cheep

b16_banger 04-24-2009 02:58 AM

lol u guys are ------ morons do some research

da9gsr93 04-24-2009 03:01 AM

^^^^^^ agreed, there are countless threads, forums, whole sites dedicated to this ---- look it up, google is your friend

zman 04-24-2009 07:34 AM

all you need is the Golden Eagle LSvtec conversion kit with the ARP head studs and a vtec ecu (or if yours is already obd1, just have it chipped/modded for vtec). It comes with everything you need to do this swap in your garage, no machine shop necessary. I would however still get the head resurfaced at a machine shop.

The GSR water pump/timing belt is completely optional as you can use the LS water pump and timing belt.

sick-teg 04-24-2009 08:37 AM

nice i found some dude selling a golden eagle conversion kit in the states for $225... now all i need is a v-tec head and im on my way to more speed.

thanks guys

jasonjai 04-24-2009 11:56 AM

i noticed there's no mention of forged rods, some high compression pistons (JDM p30 b16a pistons fit ls rods), and tuning.

you probably also need a machine shop to machine the head, and assemble (pistons and rods) and balance rotating assembly. then some labour to install the head alongside timing belt, water pump, tensioner and tensioner spring.

so you'll also need coolant (since you replaced the water pump), oil, and an oil filter.

hope this helps.

k1e1v1i1n 04-24-2009 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by b16_banger (Post 275017)
lol u guys are ------ morons do some research

thx your very helpful.

Dave YO 04-24-2009 01:16 PM

Do some research it's probably only the most covered subject in the history of the Internet

k1e1v1i1n 04-24-2009 01:45 PM

ya well i'm not looking but it just seems rude to call someone a moron cause they ask a question . the 5 ppl before him didnt feel the need to call him names .

zman 04-24-2009 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by jasonjai (Post 275033)
i noticed there's no mention of forged rods, some high compression pistons (JDM p30 b16a pistons fit ls rods), and tuning.

you probably also need a machine shop to machine the head, and assemble (pistons and rods) and balance rotating assembly. then some labour to install the head alongside timing belt, water pump, tensioner and tensioner spring.

so you'll also need coolant (since you replaced the water pump), oil, and an oil filter.

hope this helps.

You don't NEED to fully build an engine when doing a lsvtec conversion. I mean ya, putting a stock vtec head on a stock LS block isn't gunna make 200whp, but it'll be an increase over the LS engine. You can expect around 140-160whp from slapping a vtec head on a LS block.

Now, if you're gunna do the b16 pistons, you might as well do the ARP rod bolts and balance everything. This will allow you to run larger cams since you'll have higher compression. I've tuned mild compression LSvtecs that make 200whp, but they also had upgraded valvetrain, aftermarket camshafts, all the bolt-ons and a free flowing exhaust.

Do you wanna spend $1500 or $4500? Thats the difference between just slapping a vtec head on a LS block and totally building your LS block up with different pistons, new bearings, vtec oil/water pump and machine work (if you're gunna buy new pistons, buy 81.50mm and bore it out 0.5mm so you start with 100% true/fresh cylinder walls).

JustinDM 04-24-2009 05:36 PM

How to build a "reliable" lsvtec/b20vtec - Honda-Tech

black_ac_gsr 04-24-2009 07:10 PM

Sits back and opens popcorn

Spike 04-24-2009 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by k1e1v1i1n (Post 275009)
after i get some cash together i am gona twist spikes arm till he dose mine on the cheep

I have no problem doing the head swap for you kev.

Torqueless_In_Toronto 04-28-2009 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by sick-teg (Post 274988)
hey you guys i have a problem.. i want vtec. im rocking a B18b dohc. and some guy across the street told me that i can put a b16 vtec head on it. and its pretty quick. now im not to sure if i should believe him because he drives a jetta =D but yeah can some one help me with that i kinda wanna do that up next payday.

thank you

ya bro some of dose jetta homies can be fishy i wouldnt trus 'em either...alot of times i can hear a weird tapping sound coming from deir engines kinda like a big truck...

sick-teg 04-28-2009 10:15 PM

lmaooooo im not gonna lie hes got a nice jetta slammed got a set of porsche rims.. but ive seen his whole exhaust catback fall off when he was speeding down the block.. =P zero respect for that. it was loud aright. i laughed.

FatTeg 04-29-2009 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by Torqueless_In_Toronto (Post 275417)
ya bro some of dose jetta homies can be fishy i wouldnt trus 'em either...alot of times i can hear a weird tapping sound coming from deir engines kinda like a big truck...

are you dumb? tdi....

vnex 05-20-2009 10:30 PM

"weird tapping like a big truck" --lol woooow. please tell me you're joking
diesel engines, look em up

XSI Teggy 05-20-2009 11:19 PM

TDI's are ok (mileage wise... lol) Your VW boy knows so much about vtec cuz he's been asking honda owners what's under the hood after he lost the race...

No offence, but if you dont know much about LSV don't bother buildin a full engine, u'll probably crash the car on the ride home from the shop or end up in a ditch without LSD..

vnex 05-21-2009 12:53 AM

^ umm, so you think people who don't know everything about honda engines don't know how to drive either?

..please..

Bolded 05-21-2009 07:11 PM

how much is installation usually for a engine swap ?

vnex 05-22-2009 02:46 AM

^depending on where you get it done from, it can cost you anywhere from 600-1200 bucks for the swap itself

Torqueless_In_Toronto 05-24-2009 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by XSI Teggy (Post 276897)
TDI's are ok (mileage wise... lol) Your VW boy knows so much about vtec cuz he's been asking honda owners what's under the hood after he lost the race...

No offence, but if you dont know much about LSV don't bother buildin a full engine, u'll probably crash the car on the ride home from the shop or end up in a ditch without LSD..

yeah no kidding, once V-tec kicks in, the car is basically like a runaway freight train, the average Joe wont be able to handle it...


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